http://dn.codegear.com/article/29254 2008-07-04T13:45:27-07:00 Craven Weasel http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/userall?commentid=36576 http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/view?commentid=36576 2004-04-29T08:37:16-07:00 2004-04-29T08:37:16-07:00

Welcome to Caught in the .NET - By Alain

I feel, Delphi is a different story, if you come underway, you see WIN32 is 7-8 times at least faster than .NET , WHO CAN SAY .NET IS FAST? , it is faster than java but so much slower than 32BIT, so VCL is more better architecture because:Your hands are open to develop IDE and component and debug your components realtime, delphi meaning this, VCL is a greate project with milion and milion lines of free code available, I feel it is important to understand their reason: .NET is a new technology for competition with SUN JAVA, it is meaning it will come in some other OS else linux (ONLY IN SCO UNIX I FEEL) and so, best usage of that is for WEB applications and something like this for shared servers so so, I feel no body can say .NET is faster or better than Standard VCL in WIn32, so VCL works like a framework but with opensource, so so, I am meaning both is greate but in my last project I used from Delphi 6 (NO 7 or 8.NET) , and value of my project is more than 10MILION DOLLARS! I am not stupid to risk on anything, but it is so so fast and works very nice, I can to say : THANKS BORLAND!, anyway! you will hear my name because I did a greate job with Borland Delphi and VCL, it is realy nice for greate projects, you can debug everything! have compatiblity with LINUX! , VCL for .NET is there! why not? WIN32 is so faster, but about security I can say .NET is better because it is not a Raw CPU ASSEMBLY can contains viruses, if there is someone from Borland I am ready to expalin my project is written in Borland Delphi and it is so fast, so reliable, so flexble with high functionality in a short period milion dollars value as a revolution in internet communication with DELPHI+VCL, I lead this with this tools! so, it supports both .NET and JAVA as plugins!my email address is : ryan@sah4is.com michael peirce http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/userall?commentid=33669 http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/view?commentid=33669 2002-12-03T05:34:48-08:00 2002-12-03T05:34:48-08:00

Welcome to Caught in the .NET - By Alain

I'm glad to see this happening. I've used Delphi since 1.0 but for the last two months I've tinkering with .net and I'm shocked by how goodit is. It's not mature like Delphi but it is sweet. The IDE for vs.net needs work but for a first release it's astounding. And a very strange thing for me to say, is that I actually like the new vb! Form inheritance, real classes - un-bloody-believable. The whole package reeks of Delphi (Anders maybe? I hear he was instrumental in this).I can't wait to see what Borland does with this, having led the way they should really rock. The class structure is what got me so effusive - this is the first real tool from MS that I've liked since C 5.0! Lino Tadros http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/userall?commentid=33582 http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/view?commentid=33582 2002-11-20T23:51:48-08:00 2002-11-20T23:51:48-08:00

re: Welcome to Caught in the .NET - By Alain

http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,29291,00.htmlfor the unpatient ones :) Lino Tadros http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/userall?commentid=33581 http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/view?commentid=33581 2002-11-20T21:37:27-08:00 2002-11-20T21:37:27-08:00

re: Welcome to Caught in the .NET - By Alain

Sorry for the delay, too much work.I submitted the article to Borland and should be released any day now.Thanks guys for your patience, I will try to make up for it.Lino Craven Weasel http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/userall?commentid=33580 http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/view?commentid=33580 2002-11-20T15:16:16-08:00 2002-11-20T15:16:16-08:00

re: Welcome to Caught in the .NET - By Alain

Yea. I keep coming too. Daily! And keep wondering if there is some link I have missed. Or is it somewhere at Kazoo? Or the author is unwell?I hope .NET is as good as claimed. Now, let's hear the evidence ...Stay healthy y'all :)Piotr, Poland Craven Weasel http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/userall?commentid=33572 http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/view?commentid=33572 2002-11-20T08:41:37-08:00 2002-11-20T08:41:37-08:00

Welcome to Caught in the .NET - By Alain

We have been waiting for the past 18 days!! (as on November 18, 2002)What's happening? Where is the first article in the series?Will there be one or is it only a joke!!??Thanks!! Curt Krueger http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/userall?commentid=33503 http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/view?commentid=33503 2002-11-11T21:09:29-08:00 2002-11-11T21:09:29-08:00

Welcome to Caught in the .NET - By Alain

Can't wait to see the articles! Robert Horbry-Smith http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/userall?commentid=33492 http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/view?commentid=33492 2002-11-10T16:35:20-08:00 2002-11-10T16:35:20-08:00

Welcome to Caught in the .NET - By Alain

Dear Lino - looking forward VERY much to your articles. Particularly "Delphi Vs C# Vs Visual Basic Vs VC++ in the .NET arena".There is a dirth of informative product comparison out there and an article like this is BADLY needed. It's difficult to tear customers and large IT companies away from the MS tool sets, and its heartbreaking ( well lets not under exagerate here )to see the lack of comprahensive, authoritative articles supporting the Delphi perspective. To technicians it's blindingly obvious but it's too hard trying to constantly quantify the "use the Borland tools" point of view. With .Net it can only get harder!!! Luigi Sandon http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/userall?commentid=33486 http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/view?commentid=33486 2002-11-09T10:47:00-08:00 2002-11-09T10:47:00-08:00

re: .NET

I apologize for not making my opinion clearer - I am Italian and my English is far from perfect - I know you are not trying to sell us anything, just trying to help us to learn .NET better and I thank you for this.I know people thrilled about .NET (and Java) and people who are not. MS is trying to sell .NET as the answer to all developer's problems, and I am afraid Borland is following.Like Java - which is so similar - .NET has advantages and drawbacks. I like asp.net - even if everything is better than asp. I am not still sure a p-code language with garbage collection is the answer for all developers' needs. Ok, the code gets compiled eventualy, but why I have to compile it every time? Ok, if I change processor and so on it gets compiled in the optimal way, but still I need to compile it every time... Windows application are already slower enough to start. And the garbage collector cannot be optimized for every kind of application. It can only make "best guess".I used Together, one of the new Borland assets. An outstanding piece of Java programming, on par with JBuilder - but without a powerful machine with a lot of RAM it is very slow (like JBuilder).On the server side, where hardware is usually powerful and applications once loaded run for a long time, maybe these are not big problems. On the client side, maybe they are.Do not tell me "but they will be web apps". I do not want to buy a 64bit 4Ghz machine to run a web browser, worse than using an X-Window terminal. I hope web services will get rid of those silly HTML applications, with poor, slow and different interfaces.When I see an application like Photoshop or a database like SQL Server entirely rewritten in C#, I will believe .NET is ready. Meanwhile I hope Borland will not lock me inside .NET with Delphi - I will look elsewhere for my development tools.It would be too dangerous for Borland itself. Lock Delphi in .NET, and many developers may choose C# and Visual Studio - because they are the native language and IDE, and Visual Studio.Regards Luigi D. Sandon Lino Tadros http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/userall?commentid=33479 http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/view?commentid=33479 2002-11-08T11:59:52-08:00 2002-11-08T11:59:52-08:00

re: .NET

Dear Luigi,I have been using the .NET framework for over 18 months now. When I say it is Very Good, I am only giving my opinion based on shipping 2 products based on .NET in the last 6 months and training on it several times in 4 countries. I respect your opinion and your doubts. I just wanted to make sure that you understand that I have no agenda here or trying to sell you anything. I am doing this out of respect for Borland and its developers to help them out.Lino