Comments for Sip From The Firehose: August 9, 2000 - Do We Need Another Programming Language?http://dn.codegear.com/article/227412008-10-07T02:13:52-07:00A point forgottenyoav abrahamihttp://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/userall?commentid=26794http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/view?commentid=267942000-10-10T03:54:56-07:002000-10-10T03:54:56-07:00A point forgottenIn the article, there is talk about the need for a new programming language, but the atricle disregard one interesting point.What do we really need from a new programming language? What problems does programmers have today, that a new programming language can / should solve?re: C# - Delphi killerDavid Intersimonehttp://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/userall?commentid=26413http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/view?commentid=264132000-09-07T12:17:08-07:002000-09-07T12:17:08-07:00re: C# - Delphi killertalks with microsoft are ongoing. no announcements yet.re: Sip From The Firehose: August 9, 2000 - Do We Need Another Programming Language?Chris Eyrehttp://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/userall?commentid=26194http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/view?commentid=261942000-08-25T05:28:49-07:002000-08-25T05:28:49-07:00re: Sip From The Firehose: August 9, 2000 - Do We Need Another Programming Language?It appears from the MSDN article http://www.msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/0900/Framework/Framework.asp that microsoft currently have no plans to port their .NET initiative to non-windows platforms. I suspect the same to be true for C# (although there may be a reference implementation - but what about C#'s native COM support on a plaform without COM?Hopefully Not!Roman Morokuttihttp://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/userall?commentid=26188http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/view?commentid=261882000-08-24T21:58:24-07:002000-08-24T21:58:24-07:00Hopefully Not!No other programming language is needed when you work with the greatest tool for ever: Borland C++ Builder 5 Enterprise. Thank you Borland for this great tool. But after all, C++ is very exciting language and for me the favorite one.Like XML, Delphi Had Have XML and VB Follow it...Eko Subagiohttp://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/userall?commentid=26114http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/view?commentid=261142000-08-20T21:20:53-07:002000-08-20T21:20:53-07:00Like XML, Delphi Had Have XML and VB Follow it...Also Microsoft .NET is not new for us, because we already taste inDelphi Internet Express and Oracle Developer what they call Web Formand Win Form, but i am glad Microsoft afraid to create Linux Form likeDelphi Does......So if any VB programmers read this message they are late to learn andtaste OOP, because we already taste it since Delphi 1.0What Delphi should implement is drag and drop in InternetExpresslike ASPExpress for Delphi from Marotz.comre: C# is better than Java, but it is better than C++ too!Alexey Solofnenkohttp://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/userall?commentid=26111http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/view?commentid=261112000-08-20T20:18:04-07:002000-08-20T20:18:04-07:00re: C# is better than Java, but it is better than C++ too!Java was created as C++ killer, and we still are not sure whether C++will be popular for another ten years. Unlike C# Java have too many inconveniences. Hence C# may have better chances to overcome C++, unlessMicrosoft spoils it.re: Is MS is chasing the wrong things...David Intersimonehttp://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/userall?commentid=26108http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/view?commentid=261082000-08-20T10:12:05-07:002000-08-20T10:12:05-07:00re: Is MS is chasing the wrong things...I just read the Nasa article comparing Lisp to C++ and Java. I can't find fault with the analysis. At the same time I wish the authors would have analyzed other issues surrounding choice and use of language. Some of these issues include: 1) industry support for a language (compiler and too vendors), 2) infrastructure (books, college courses, magazines, conferences, etc), 3) buzz - that thing that goes on when a language is in the spotlight.I know that none of these are the reasons to chose a language for development, but in the real world, they often are some of the data points that affect business decisions.re: C# is better than Java, but it is better than C++ too!David Intersimonehttp://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/userall?commentid=26107http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/view?commentid=261072000-08-20T10:05:53-07:002000-08-20T10:05:53-07:00re: C# is better than Java, but it is better than C++ too!I don't see C# as a C++ killer. There are too many great features in the C++ language, too many people doing great work with C++, and a C++ community that will keep C++ alive for years to come.re: Why C# doesn't born in Borland ?David Intersimonehttp://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/userall?commentid=26106http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/view?commentid=261062000-08-20T10:04:39-07:002000-08-20T10:04:39-07:00re: Why C# doesn't born in Borland ?We created and continue to innovate with Delphi. Delphi is now getting to Linux. New language features appear from time to time to solve programming problems.If you're asking why Anders didn't do this at Borland, that is a personal question for Anders. He could have stayed at Borland and created new languages for years to come. He chose to go to Microsoft.re: Description on Pascal Language - Too Simple ?David Intersimonehttp://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/userall?commentid=26105http://threads.codegear.com/threads/threads.exe/view?commentid=261052000-08-20T10:02:16-07:002000-08-20T10:02:16-07:00re: Description on Pascal Language - Too Simple ?I could have listed more features for Pascal (and maybe I will). A lot of what is also in Pascal first appeared in Algol. In listing the languages in chronological order, I tried to list the features that were truly "new" to the whole field of languages.